I was researching on line for light modifiers for speed lights and ran across Viewfinder Photography based in England. They sell a kit containing several attachment for speed lights, the kit includes a snoots with grids, a beauty dish with grids & colored gels and a diffusion globe.
The complete kit sells for 139.99 pounds, with today's current exchange rate that equals to $275.00. dollars U.S. That's a bit to much to pay for in my book. I did find just the beauty dish for sale on there web site at a cost of about $175.00 dollars U.S. still to much.
I was digging around the Flickr and found 2 photographers who had build their own beauty dish, Nick Haskins and Tyler Burk. In building my beauty dish, I followed Tyler's design how ever I added a mirror inside of the return.
If you want to make your own beauty dish, follow Tyler's instructions except add a convex mirror inside of the return. I'm including photos here showing more of the process I took in making my beauty dish. This project only took an hour, easy and fun to do.
These are the parts you need to make your beauty dish.
Here I used the gutter part from H.D. to mark my cut.

Here you are seeing the CD case as it will appear in the dish prior to cutting a hole in it.
Here I am aligning the gutter devise on the back of the CD case to mark where I need to cut my opening for the strobe head. I should caution you on the cutting of the openings on your dish, I used a utility knife which worked very well. As you know, sometime those things can get away from you-be careful.
I drilled a hole in the corner of my markings in order to start my actual cuttings, you may not need to do this.
In the above photos you can see the hole in the bottom of the bowl has been cut out and the gutter devise is pushed through in order to check fit.

This is a view of the face of the beauty dish with gutter devise and than the cut CD case over the top of the gutter thing. In the photos below you can see the fasteners in place, I used the holes in the gutter thing as a guide for drilling holes through the bowl and CD case.
The photo below show the inside of the CD case, the end which the strobe fires into. I glued a CD to the inside/top of the case and than put a convex mirror on top of that. It was my thought that the mirror would help to disperse the light more evenly. I pick up the 3 1/2 inch mirror at a local auto supply store for $2.39.
The image below shows you what the dish looks like finished and painted. I have also attached additional images of the light for your review.
This was a fast and easy DIY project, it took no time at all.



Some additional information regarding dish light: It seems I lose about a stop and a half of light. I am also attaching the photos below so you can see the velco strap around the back of the flash head.
Here are two photos to compare the light quality using the dish. The first is of Ian with bare flash and the second using the beauty dish.

Wednesday, April 16, 2008
Beauty Dish for SB-800
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Great post David, thanks! A lot of the DIY stuff out there looks pretty rough, but yours turned out looking great as well.
If you are looking for snoots/grids at a better price, I'd recommend www.honlphoto.com. They have some great products at a fairly reasonable price. I use their setup and really like the quality and professional look.
HI David, best D.I.Y. dish I've seen yet. What's holding it on to the speed light, friction? Now let's see you make a grid for it!
I did the same thing with the CD spindle and mirror a couple months ago. My dish is very disposable though, simply using a foil roasting pan (JustFab's idea on Flickr...)
http://www.knick-knack.com/howto/camera/diy-beauty-dish.html
Thanks for better and easier design of the beauty dish, however, something I didn't quite get is the mirror, where did you place the mirror exactly?? I can't seem to see it in the final finished shots, is it glued to the back of the translucent cover??
Joe : Thanks for your comment. Yes the mirror is glued to a CD on the back of the translucent cover.
Very neatly done, David. And I agree - this is the cleanest D.I.Y. dish I've come accross so far.
Any chance you could post a couple of test pics so that we can see just how well your dish works?
Many thanks.
Hi David. This is such a great idea.
I'd love to know what zoom position do you set on your SB800 when you use this beauty dish?
It's a great weekend project for me.
Thank you for sharing.
This is a great DIY tutorial. I plan on making my own this weekend. I was hoping you could direct me to where I can buy the connectors for attaching the flash to the light stand. Obviously some sort of shoe is needed, but what connector are you using to mount the shoe to the stand. Thanks David!
How does the flash attach to the dish? Using velcro?
Can you post some images of it attaching to the flash please?
The mirror seems to be attached to the cd inside the cd case facing the flash head.
Hi, this is really cool. I want to do this with my sb-600. It looks possible, is it?
And what are you using to hold the actual speedlight? Is their some sort of stand I could use?
Hey David,
Nice design! :)
Really though props go to Haskins. Anyway, glad to see others making this thing. I have since installed the mirror which was the original plan but I wanted to see if the reflective paint would do the trick first. Actually, I can't tell any difference between the cd and the mirror. Glad to see some example shots too (haven't got around to that part yet). The final product looks great.
Take it easy.
Hey David,
Nice design! :)
Really though props go to Haskins. Anyway, glad to see others making this thing. I have since installed the mirror which was the original plan but I wanted to see if the reflective paint would do the trick first. Actually, I can't tell any difference between the cd and the mirror. Glad to see some example shots too (haven't got around to that part yet). The final product looks great.
Take it easy.
Thank you for this very good article. It is extremely interesting to know manufacture a homemade dish.
I have a question. I'd like to translate your article in french (for no-English-speaking readers), I would it be possible to use your images to illustrate my translation?
I will of course a link to your blog.
Thanks again.
Man, this is exquisite. Thanks for sharing.
Hey David,
how do you fasten the dish on you flash?
Is there anything that holds the dish on the flash? I can't see it on the photos.
I use velco to attach the dish to the flash. I placed a small piece of the hooky side of velco on the dish and ran a strand of it across the back of the flash head.
As far as the mirror go's, it's attached on the top "inside" of the CD case cover. The flash fires into it and the light is directed out into the dish.
Pingul75- Yes you may. DT
David,
How many stops of light do you lose with this setup? Along those lines, would you recommend one CD spindle cover over another based on how clear it is... or is a little translucence giving softer light?
If you have a store in your local area that sells to the Heavy Duty trucking market like "TruckPro"...you should be able to buy those convex mirrors up to 6" in diameter, possibly larger. You might be able to match one up to the full diameter of the CD case.
RMG
Smple, aesthetically pleasing, brilliant. Thanks for sharing.
Here's my version with a link to instructions. I went with a suspended CD shiny side to the strobe.
DIY beauty dish back by LightStamp, on Flickr
Link to original instructions that I modified with mine.
Is it just me, or does it seem like a lot of light is lost by the light that hits the center of the mirror / reflective object? All that light would bounce right back towards the center of the flash, and would have to be reflected again before (if) it hits the side of the dish.
It would seem to me that a better solution would be more of a cone-shaped reflector, with a steep angle at the tip and a shallower angle at the base. This would make sure that all light is directed away from the flash and towards the sides of the dish, and hopefully would reduce light loss.
Or, maybe a small "short" cone could be placed on center of the mirror and redirect just the light that would have been bounced back at the flash.
Something like this may be able to be scupled out of stryrofoam and covered in reflective aluminum HVAC tape, (or someone might find something similar at a Dollar Store that could be wrapped in foil tape and repurposed...)
Goin to HD tonite... who's with me?!!
I apologize for my ignorance but what do you mean by gutter devise from H.D.? I'm clueless. By the was, I shoot Canon, not Nikon, usually with an EX 580.
It appears to me that you all missed one point, including David! A ring flash surrounds the lens of the camera! Here we have a very good and simple solution to change the shape of a square light output into a round light output. But the camera-lens is NOT in the center of the light to make that nice macro shot or distance shot which was originally shown on Strobist.
We haven’t invented a new mousetrap at all; we only have changed the ‘mousetrap’ from square light to round shape at the cost of two stops. The end result is a more diffused light from one direction with a marginal improvement in shadow casting.
There are just too many questions ask about the placement of the mirror, the location of the CD, the reason for the CD base etc. So a few more detail pictures would be handy David.
I would think the semi-clear portion of the CD case is causing some light loss, maybe it would help to cut out portions of the clear sides to give a sort of tripod for the reflector but still providing sufficient support and better light transmission
I'm going now! Hopefully that gutter thing shows up fast! I hate it when they try to hide!
Strangetastes
H.D. is Home Depot; massive discount hardware store
Gutter devise is a piece of rain gutter sold in the hardware section of home hardware stores. Best to take your Canon flash with you to the hardware store to find a suitable device to use to support the flash head in the plastic dish.
Does anyone know the actual name of that gutter thing? I went to home depot and found something that looks similar but its made out of metal and way to big. The one shown in the photos look like its made out of plastic. Can someone possibly find it on the Home Depots website so it will be easier to find?
The gutter "thingy" is called a "drop out" or an "outlet."
It is what connects a downspout to the gutter.(No stealing!)
Also was wondering if the velcro was the only thing holding the dish to the strobe...?
thanks for sharing, david - the usage of using the cd case is excellent. im gonna try it.
whats the diameter size of the dish?
i made a similar beauty dish and i use a styrofoam cup - an example of the results - http://www.flickr.com/photos/potatoe/870660957/in/set-72157600984619342/
@the trout whisperer
ummm...correct me if i'm wrong...but i think YOU missed the point. it's a DIY "beauty dish" tutorial..not a "ring flash" tutorial. anyways..you probably just misread it.
thanks for the tutorial david!
Thanks for posting this - your design is really cool. I've looked at all of the dishes and rings on Strobist, and yours is likely the best in terms of light and looks.
I think I might be making one like yours this weekend :)
great idea using the mirror...gotta try something with this
Great idea, very creative, I will gonna try it, Thank You for sharing it.
Carlos Porto
www.flicr.com/photos/carlosporto
Great looking DIY project.
I was able to source the mirror from McMaster-Carr as well. They deliver the next day on almost everything.
Catalog Number: 9208T46
Hi David,
Does this type of light diffusion actually affect the depth of field? Looking at the pictures , it seems the plaid is so much more defined in the bare flash picture. As if the f/stop between the two were different. Is this the case?
The beauty dish takes light strength away from the strobe, requiring me to open my f/stop for the loss of light.
Doing so reduces the DOF.
Thanks for the idea. I am in the process of making mine now. Only one gripe: I could only find a 17" plastic terra cotta bowl. I hope it works out OK. I will post shots later.
David,
First, brilliant idea using the mirror.
Second, what sort of finish was the white paint? Flat, glossy, satin, other?
nice tutorial...
while browsing through the paint isle, i found some "Reflective Paint".
i wonder what effect that would have on the white paint
Does anyone know if the gutter attachment is available in the UK? I tried Focus & Wickes & couldn't see anything similar.
Cathus...
I've not looked, but I'd be surprised if B&Q didn't stock them. At a push, you could also try Home Base. Or... you just might get lucky at an independent shop - they can often throw up some suprises and, if not, may well have a similar suitable item.
I checked out B & Q - we have a new really massive one locally - couldn't see anything like this in the guttering department, most of it was rounded, there were some square joints but narrower than the width of my flashgun (3").
I also tried Homebase with no joy.
David, Thanks for the post.. Great post. I've got all the material to make my beauty dish but facing one problem on downspout.
I have Canon 580ex flash and the flash head is little wider than the downspout. I've got exactly same downspout you used here on the post. Also tried another type from home depot also but same size issue.
Any suggestion please I would appreciate that.
regards,
Nikhil
I was looking at the downspout, and realized something. Go to http://www.harbordigitaldesign.com and you can order the flash head adapter to fit your particular flash. Their price is 12.95 plus shipping....and they are pretty quick. I got mine in Alaska in 2 days.
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